Male archetypes: Warrior vs Hunter

I am, once again, examining what it means to be male.  I’ve just read through King, Warrior, Magician, Lover: Rediscovering the Archetypes of the Mature Masculine by Robert Moore and Douglas Gillette and my first impression is favorable.  Even though this is in the mythopoetic school of thought, which I generally don’t care for, I feel like this probably has some pretty useful stuff in it.

However, of the four archetypes covered, I’m finding the Warrior to be problematic.  Their image of the Warrior is essentially one of disciplined aggression in service to a larger cause.  Basically, when something needs to be killed, the Warrior is the guy to get it done.  I don’t disagree with this in broad strokes, but I find the overt association of this basic pattern with the making of war to be both unsettling and inaccurate.  Indeed, in their descriptions and examples they make liberal use of war imagery without any examination at all of whether or not war is a good idea to begin with.  They seem to have a strong assumption that humans killing one another, when done correctly, is a great thing.

Now, obviously sometimes things do indeed need to be killed and there’s very clearly part of the male psyche that revels in this role.  But I think this archetype can be described more robustly by pushing even further back into human history.  Long before we had groups large enough to warrant warriors to battle other groups, males were already enacting this role: they were hunters.

The Hunter archetype holds all the essential qualities of the Warrior, but without the whole slaughtering-people-to-further-somebody-else’s-political-agenda thing.  The Hunter is focused, disciplined, and all his will is bent on ending a life in the service of his people.  But his mission is not to kill other human beings for the expansion of power (or defending against others’ expansion), his mission is to kill so that he may provide sustenance to his people.  And in every traditional culture, the Hunter always held both the hunt and his prey to be sacred.  It was carried out with the utmost respect and devotion.  When was the last time you heard of a warrior who held his enemy to be sacred?

I think a critical difference between these two perspectives can be found in modern psychology’s take on aggression.  It is largely divided into two types, affective aggression and predatory aggression.  Affective aggression is reactive and fear-based.  When something tries to bite you and you’re upset and bite back, that is affective aggression.  Predatory aggression is intentional and goal-oriented.  When there’s a fox in the hen house and you carefully hunt it down, that is predatory aggression.

(It’s worth noting that my very limited research seems to show psychology addressing predatory aggression primarily in terms of pathological behavior.  But any archetype which is repressed will always surface in shadow form, and the Hunter is no different.)

It seems to me that the Warrior is ultimately based upon affective aggression.  Wars are always fear-based.  Rulers hoard power out of their own fear and then lead their people to fear the "other".  Then the other (who is operating under the same dynamic) either attacks or is attacked and yet another senseless, reactive war ensues.

But the Hunter is ultimately based on predatory aggression.  He is, literally, the predator.  He knows he must kill to live and he carries out this task with intention and focus.  Instead of fearing or hating his prey, he holds it in the highest respect as the very sustainer of life.

So, based on my admittedly brief examination of the topic, I think it would be of value to explore the possibility that the Warrior is a shadow form of the Hunter.  This would place the Hunter as a primary human male archetype, and along with it a far more Life-oriented perspective on what it is to be a man.

5 Responses to “Male archetypes: Warrior vs Hunter”

  1. jessie Says:

    huh.

  2. David Bruce Leonard Says:

    This is very interesting.

    An important part of the Warrior archetype that is missing from the Hunter is the guarding of the perimeter. This can be against OTHER predators, both human and otherwise.

  3. Chris Says:

    That is certainly an aspect of the Warrior that is not present in the Hunter, but I’m not certain that it is applicable. Adult humans have no natural predators. And even the very smallest grouping of humans which could be said to have a perimeter to be guarded would be intimidating enough to keep away predators that might be tempted to hunt a baby human. It seems to me that the notion of guards only arose in conjunction with the Warrior as humans began our tragic pattern of warring upon each other.

  4. Michael Says:

    From my view, the warrior is the protector. Disciplined and honorable. The warrior is willing to do what is necessary to protect the tribe. Often today, that means making a tough decision or facing a challenging situation. Often the warrior protects from the soldier/invader. In the Last Samuari, Tom Cruise’s character transforms from soldier to warrior.

    The soldier works in service to the tyrant king is the shadow. Ruthlessly slashing with his sword for power, greed, etc.

    The hunter provides and is a natural part of the circle of life and death for sustenance.

  5. Lily Says:

    It seems to me, that assuming Warrior to be a protector and Hunter lacks this quality is not very justified. Author claimed Hunters to be just like any predator. But every predator except for hunting, does protect his territory, to avoid competition for provision.
    As for Warrior, personally I still meditate on the subject, but so far it seems to me He has more connection with Death. E.g. 300 movie, when Spartans made a willing sacrifice. Or look at Polynesian culture. In the past, boys when taught martial arts, had to reply “yes” to the question “are you ready to die”. Not to mention adult warriors made the same reply before real battles.
    Hunter, on the contrary, does not aim to die to reach his goal. Though of course He could. So, Hunter, though killing another living thing, is still a symbol, a celebration of life.
    Warrior brings death and is likely to die himself.

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